Showing posts with label TOXIC. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TOXIC. Show all posts

Sunday, March 16, 2014

Making a separation, and cutting out toxic people

After years of turning our cheek, holding back to keep the peace, and asking ourselves, "What would Jesus do?"
Also adding that after years of immaturity, defense, contention, anger, and hatred, Dan and I have decided to cut his sister from our lives completely- if for only a while.
I will add that we feel the Christlike way and peaceful way about it was all one sided- our side, and that the immature and selfish acts were from her as well as us.
Now that we have a son, so many of our opinions and focus has changed and we just feel it to be too dangerous and toxic to have him around a person who is constantly bringing down her entire family.

We looked to friendly advice and church resources for opinions and suggestions on this matter- as it is something we don't take lightly. We are hoping this isn't a permanent decision, but rather one to allow all in the family to collect their wits and thoughts and hopefully, eventually come to a happier place.


"Sometimes it makes sense to be sympathetic with toxic people whom you know are going through a difficult time, or those who are suffering from an illness.  There’s no question about it, some toxic people are genuinely distressed, depressed, or even mentally and physically ill, but you still need to separate their legitimate issues from how they behave toward you.  If you let people get away with anything because they are distressed, facing a medical condition, or depressed, even, then you are making it too tempting for them to start unconsciously using their unfortunate circumstance as a means to an end."
I found this tidbit on a random blog I was reading. It is private, so I can't link to it but I agree wholeheartedly. 

I love my in-laws so dearly, but sometimes giving this toxic person her way to keep the peace is a huge injustice to the rest of the family. I am on a the sideline of a battle that is not ending well. I see ways that Dan, Ben, David, and all the grandkids are losing time and attention over one person. Heavenly Father told Nephi, "It is better that one perish, than to have a whole nation dwindle in unbelief." 

I understand that she has some setbacks and disadvantages, but she knows right from wrong and how to manipulate people to get what she wants. Not cool.

Here are a handful of quotes we found at LDS.org.

The Canker of Contention
RUSSELL M. NELSON

As we dread any disease that undermines the health of the body, so should we deplore contention, which is a corroding canker of the spirit. I appreciate the counsel of Abraham Lincoln, who said: “Quarrel not at all. No man resolved to make the most of himself can spare time for personal contention. … Better give your path to a dog than be bitten by him.”
No Time for Contention
MARVIN J. ASHTON

From the Savior’s words we learn the source of contention, whether it be in the home, in the community, among the leaders, or in the classroom. “For verily, verily, I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.” (3 Ne. 11:29.) This means that Satan has power over us only when we let him in. We have agency. We can choose our behavior. The Prophet Joseph Smith said on one occasion, “The devil has no power over us only as we permit him. The moment we revolt at anything which comes from God, the devil takes power.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 181.)
When one considers the bad feeling and the unpleasantness caused by contention, it is well to ask, “Why do I participate?” If we are really honest with ourselves, our answers may be something like: “When I argue and am disagreeable, I do not have to change myself. It gives me a chance to get even.” “I am unhappy and I want others to be miserable too.” “I can feel self-righteous. In this way I get my ego built up.” “I don’t want others to forget how much I know!”
Whatever the real reason, it is important to recognize that we choose our behavior. At the root of this issue is the age-old problem of pride. “Only by pride cometh contention.” (Prov. 13:10.)
If Satan can succeed in creating in us habits of arguing, quarreling, and contention, it is easier then for him to bind us with the heavier sins which can destroy our eternal lives. A contentious spirit can affect almost any phase of our lives. An angry letter written in haste can haunt us—sometimes for years. A few ill-advised words spoken in hate can destroy a marriage or a personal friendship, or impede community progress.
Eliminating Contention
BY A. LAVAR THORNOCK

Satan seeks to sow contention everywhere, including the Church. The person with a contentious spirit is usually thinking primarily of himself. And when we yield to such a spirit we separate ourselves further from the Spirit of God. “He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me,” said the Lord, “but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another” (3 Ne. 11:29).

When we learn to overcome contention, in our lives we bring ourselves closer to Christ. Contention destroys relationships between family members, and thwarts the smooth progress of the Church. But as we learn the gospel, repent of our mistakes, and live in obedience to the counsel of our living prophets, we can overcome contention and begin again to progress back to God. When we, through the Atonement and self-mastery, rise above the natural man, we will be able to begin to live eternal laws. And thus will come eternal blessings.

Here are some thoughts from some of our friends: Most of which just confirmed what we already felt-

“We all have those people. Wish there was an easy answer. Just trust your instincts as a father & husband and know that Heavenly Father will guide you to do what is best for the family He has given you to lead and guide.”

“If they really wanted a relationship with their nephew, they wouldn't treat his parents poorly”

“We only spend time with them at family gatherings, but never outside of that. It just wasn't worth the hurt feelings all of the time and we know nothing will ever change.”

“If they really want a relationship with the nephews. This person needs to change or you can go surround your family with positive people who will enrich your life. I would tell this person that you won't be visiting them or let your kids visit them or this person will poison them with gossip and hatred. I wouldn't want that for my kids. Unless they change and respect everyone in your family, you don’t want them be a part of your life. It's their choice. Your Heavenly Father can also guide you. We are all his children. We love them but don't need to allow our hearts or minds to be filled with negative and toxic things.”

‪”Daniel, this is a tough one but honestly, if you don't want to be around this family member, do you want Cam?? I know I wouldn't want my daughter. Cherish, Cameron and you are a package deal. Be kind when you speak to this person and let them know that their behavior doesn't work for you and your family and that you choose not to be around the negativity. Let them know that changes need to be made in order to have that relationship they want. They can't argue that. Like another person said, let your father instinct kick in. They're there for a reason. You're the head of your family and do what you think is best. Good Luck!”

“I would give the extended family thing a rest. Go visit individual siblings and your parents at different times rather than at family gatherings and only see the people that are positive influences in your life. That way Cameron still gets to know his family but you are controlling the situation. At some point if the negative nellie makes some life changes you can go back to the family gathering thing. I would say you might have to make exceptions for some holidays though and on those days set a time limit (i.e. stay for only an hour). Good luck!”

Hopefully a little bit of healthy space will calm this person down. It is time for a reality check, and we are trying to do our part as pleasing to our Father in Heaven as we can.